Distant Star light - Decay of the speed of light.

The idea that the speed of light had decreased since creation, was first proposed by Barry Setterfield in the 1980's. While it initially resulted in some excitement  It was based on the some old measurements of the speed of light, most of which are highly inaccurate and the oldest of which has been recalculated showing an error in the original calculation  with the corrected value within the margin of error of the accepted value for the speed of light. While it still has its supporters It has fallen out of favor.

 

http://www.icr.org/article/has-speed-light-decayed/

 

Despite its failing C-decay stands out the first scientific theory proposed by Young Earth Creationists to solve the distant star light problem. It's real legacy is that it sparked the idea the the distant star light problem might have a scientific solution. 

 

 

 

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Distant Star light - The distances are wrong.

This questions if the distances are being measured accurately since you can not use a ruler to do it. The basic method of measurement which is stellar parallax is based on geometry and would be quite accurate but it only works up to about 100 Light years, so go further required other forms of measurement. This idea suggested that the other forms of measurement may not be accurate. However the assumptions behind using Cepheid stars and galactic redshift are reasonable enough that they are probably off by no more than a factor of 10 not the factor of 2,200,000 needed by this claim.  

Parallax

 

The most basic way of determining the distance to star is by way of parallax. This method is based on geometry but it is useful only up to a dew hundred light years because then the angle get too small to measure.

 

Cepheid variable stars

 

Cepheid variable stars are large bright stars that vary in brightness over days and based on Cepheid variable stars close enough for their distances to be measured by Parallax their absolute brightness can be shown to be related to the length of their period of variability this means that they can be used as a standard candle for measuring distance. This method works up to about 50 megaParsec  (163 million light years)

 

Galactic Redshift

 

It was as a result of easements of Cepheid variable stars it was found that the light from galaxies is resifted proportionally to their distance. This works to at least 10's of billions of light years.

 

Type Ia supernovae

 

These are new commers to the list the are a result of whift dwarf stars that build up material from a large commpanion star that builds up until it explodes in a vary predictable way, resulting in a constent brightness, producing a new standard candle that is good for billions of light years.

 

The fact that these methods can all cross checked and are ultimetly based on the gomotry of Parallax shows that any error in calculating distances would is no greater than a factor of 10. But since this idea requiers a factor of 2,200,000 it is clearly wrong. While questioning the assuptions behind scientifc conclusions is a good thing to in this case it just dose not pan out.

 

 

 

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Distant Star light - Light created in transit.

This is the idea that God created the star light already in transit from the stars on day four of the creation week without having to cover the distances. IT was the first proposed solution to this problem and it was based in the idea of a mature Creation.

 

The main argument against this idea is that it make most of what we see in the universe distance greater than 6500 light years a fiction that never happened. This put God’s honesty in to question since most we see of God’s creation 99.999975% by distance would be fictitious. Because of this the Light created in transit has been largely abandoned.

 

 

Other major problem with it is the fact that it is inherently untestable making it totally unscientific and of little if an apologetic value.

 

One possibility of solving some these problem comes this idea the the Universe is fundamentally information. One aspect of my model which I call the Information Universe is that the information about the state of an object is not fully processed until it is observed by a conscious entity. In this case a distant star and other distant objects exist only as mathematical probabilities that are narrowed when we observe it in a given state from its light to the range of mathematical probabilities constent with the observations. In this case distant events are just mathematical probabilities the program of the Unisvese with no actaull reality until it light is observed. This both eliminates the problem of God creating sn object in deep space with apparent history, making it no more dishonsest than the back ground of a video game. It also provides a scientific backfround for the Light created in transit.

 

The big problem and one reason why I do accept this is that it still makes the observed events of the Universe 99.999975% fictitious and dishonest or not God would still be giving sinnful men an excuse to denigh the The word of the the salvation offered through faith in Jesus Crist.

 

The other problem is that even within the Information Universe there is no reason why God could have not let the universe have a real history even in the context of the mathematical probabilities and so there is no reason for creating the Light from distant objects in transit.

 

 

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Most challenging - Distant Star light

Without a doubt the strongest evidence for vast time is distant star light. Unlike most dating methods it strait forward in the formula is t = d /c where t = time, d = distance and c = the speed of light. It really only requires two assumptions. One is that the distances are real and other is that the speed of light is constant. This simplicity has made it the toughest claim of vast time for Young Earth Creationists to deal with. However there have been Young Earth Creationists several theories to deal with this. I will deal with each of these briefly in this posting and the each of them in turn in more detail in separate posts

 

 Light created in transit.

 

This is the idea that God created the star light already in transit from the stars on day four of the creation week without having to cover the distances. The main argument against this idea is that it make most of what we see in the universe distance greater than 6500 light years a fiction that never happened. This put God’s honesty in to question since most we see of God’s creation 99.999975% by distance would be fictitious.

 

The distances are wrong.

 

This questions if the distances are being measured accurately since you can not use a ruler to do it. The basic method of measurement which is stellar parallax is based on geometry and would be quite accurate but it only works up to about 100 Light years, so go further required other forms of measurement. This idea suggested that the other forms of measurement may not be accurate. However the assumptions behind using Cepheid stars and galactic redshift are reasonable enough that they are probably off by no more than a factor of 10 not the factor of 2,200,000 needed by this claim.  

 

Decay of the speed of light.

 

This is the idea that the speed of light had decreased sine creation, maybe starting with the fall. It was based on the some old measurements of the speed of light, most of which are highly inaccurate and the oldest of which has been recalculated showing an error in the original calculation  with the corrected value within the margin of error of the accepted value for the speed of light. While it still has its supporters  it has fallen out of favor.

 

Time Dilation

 

This is in general the basic idea proposed by Russell Humphreys and John Hartnet. While there different versions of this idea it proposed that the Earth experienced one or two pariods of  time dilation (slowed down time) usually durring the first four days of the creation week and durring the Flood. When using General Reletivity this aproach has the most appologetic value since it requiers no new physics and it has the advantage being expandable to a general Young Earth cosmology.

 

 

There other theories that have been proposed but they never caught on. These four will be elaborated on it future postings.

 

Most challenging Old Earth evidence.

This the next part in may series on Evidence for Young Earth Creation. This part deals with the most challenging Old Earth evidence that is the evidence that that is used to claim an old Earth that have posed the biggest challenges for Young Earth Creationist. This does not mean they are unanswered but they have been the hardest to deal with. What follows is the list of topics that I plan on dealing with here. I would also like any suggestions you will have. They will be considered for inclusion as long as I get the suggestion before I conclude this part.

 

Top List

 

Distant Star light.

Radiometric dating.

Carbon 14 Dating.

The 4.5 Billion year age given for the Earth,

Craters.

The fossil record.

The Geologic Time scale.

Sedimentology.

 

By the way I know that Radiometric dating, Carbon 14 Dating, and the 4.5 Billion years all deal with Radiometric dating but Carbon 14 Dating, and the 4.5 Billion year are specialized areas that need special treatment.

 

As I said feel free to make suggestions. The most likely reason why I may not include it is if I think it is best included under “Alleged Old Earth evidence easily dealt with.”

 

Analysis of Kepler-186f

http://gscim.com/phy/Thermodynamics/Statistical_Thermodynamics.html

 

The discovery of Kepler-186f announcement of an Earth size planet inside its star's habitable zone produced excitement as well as speculation about life existing on this plane and possibly intelligent life. Also followed were the usual artist depictions of the planet making it look similar to Earth. However an actual analysis of Kepler-186f shows that all it really has in common with the Earth that it is similarity in size with Earth.

 

 Despite  the atheistic evolutionary presupposition  that Kepler-186f might be habitable, there is no  evidence that ithas even a drop liquid water, and even if it did that is not evidence for life. However behind the repeated desperate hopefulness of finding life on one of these exoplanets is the theory abiogenesis a theory of biological origins that is thermodynamically impossible. Abiogenesis is the theory that life arose spontaneously for non living chemicals. The thermodynamic impossibility of abiogenesis results from statistical thermodynamics and not from the 2nd law. However the desperation for atheists to explain how we got here without God requires them assume that life arose spontaneously for non living chemicals no mater how much the laws of physics say it can't happen.

 

 

Neanderthals as smart as modern man

http://www.newser.com/story/186220/modern-humans-no-brainier-than-neanderthals.html

 

While Evolutionists have tented to depict Neanderthals as intellectually inferior brutes, Creationists have been saying that they were at least as intelligent as we are.

 

Now Evolutionists looking for support for the intellectually inferior brutes idea have shown that Neanderthals were at least as intelligent as modern man.

 

Now while they would never admit it, these Evolutionists have shown the Creationists have been right on the intelligents of Neanderthals all along.  

 

So once again creationist models of the past have made a successful prediction, while the Evolutionist has missed it.

 

 

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